That’s What C! Said

The Counterintuity marketing podcast

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Hosted by Counterintuity creative strategist Lee Wochner, “That’s What C! Said” features interviews with leaders and doers who have helped to make their communities, or aspects of the world, a better place through their actions — and especially through marketing, communications, and embracing change.

Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

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Heart at work

In this episode, Lee talks with Shelly Willis, Executive Director of Family Education and Support Services (FESS). For over 25 years, FESS has strengthened families through parenting support, trauma-informed care,…
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