That’s What C! Said

The Counterintuity marketing podcast

Hosted by Counterintuity creative strategist Lee Wochner, “That’s What C! Said” features interviews with leaders and doers who have helped to make their communities, or aspects of the world, a better place through their actions — and especially through marketing, communications, and embracing change.

Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

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