That’s What C! Said
The Counterintuity marketing podcast
Hosted by Counterintuity creative strategist Lee Wochner, “That’s What C! Said” features interviews with leaders and doers who have helped to make their communities, or aspects of the world, a better place through their actions — and especially through marketing, communications, and embracing change.
Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify
Leadership lessons — a nonprofit on the front lines of child trafficking
Lee Wochner talks with Michael Brosowski, the visionary behind Blue Dragon Children’s Foundation. Their conversation is a treasure trove for nonprofit executives, packed with strategies on overcoming obstacles and making…
Reel leadership: Directing change with Liz Bloomfield
Feeling the weight of your mission? Let Liz Bloomfield lift your spirits. In our latest podcast, this former British Army officer and nonprofit virtuoso shares her blueprint for thriving in…
Defending Public Justice with Lori James-Townes
In addition to being the Executive Director of the National Association for Public Defense for almost three years, for 25 years, Lori James-Townes has been a leader in public advocacy…
Marketing math made easy with Lee Wochner
Just like ‘Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally’ helped us tackle tricky math problems, in this episode, Lee discusses the marketing world’s own ‘Dear Aunt Sally’ – RELER – a…
Planning for 24 pt. 3 with Lee Wochner
In this episode of C! Says, Lee Wochner highlights the need to scrutinize expenses and review revenue sources critically. Regularly checking your budget will be vital to the execution of…
Planning for 24 pt. 2 with Lee Wochner
In part two of Counterintuity CEO Lee Wochner’s “Planning for 2024” series, discover the ways you can create a thorough and successful marketing plan.
Planning for 24 pt. 1 with Lee Wochner
In this episode, Counterintuity’s CEO, Lee Wochner, lays out the roadmap for creating a marketing plan for your organization, a plan that addresses the unique challenges 2024 will bring.
How to change peoples minds with Bruce Dundore
While spinning lots of fun stories with Lee, Bruce helps us understand why your marketing always needs to start with your story — and how to develop that story, and…