That’s What C! Said
The Counterintuity marketing podcast
Hosted by Counterintuity creative strategist Lee Wochner, “That’s What C! Said” features interviews with leaders and doers who have helped to make their communities, or aspects of the world, a better place through their actions — and especially through marketing, communications, and embracing change.
Available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify
Planning for 24 pt. 1 with Lee Wochner
In this episode, Counterintuity’s CEO, Lee Wochner, lays out the roadmap for creating a marketing plan for your organization, a plan that addresses the unique challenges 2024 will bring.
How to change peoples minds with Bruce Dundore
While spinning lots of fun stories with Lee, Bruce helps us understand why your marketing always needs to start with your story — and how to develop that story, and…
Marketing for social impact with Madmen co-producer Josh Weltman
In 2020, Josh Weltman stood up his own campaign for Elizabeth Warren and now he’s ready to do it again in 2024, this time for Joe Biden. We’ll talk with…
Navigating digital networking with Jon Tsourakis
Today our guest is Jon Tsourakis, president and co-owner of Oyova, an application development and marketing agency in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Jon’s here to help us learn more about how…
Promoting inclusivity and diversity in the arts with Regina Bain
This week our guest is Regina Bain, Executive Director of the Louis Armstrong House Museum and the newly opened Louis Armstrong Center. Regina covers the legacy of the jazz legend…
Growing together: strategies for building your nonprofit and community hand in hand with Jamie Keyser Thomas
In 2020, Jamie Keyser Thomas left her position as a community manager and liaison for the Walt Disney Company in order to assume the leadership of her local Chamber of…
Challenging injustice: The legacy of Japanese American Incarceration with Susan Kamei
Our host Lee Wochner is joined by scholar and author Susan H. Kamei to discuss her book When Can We Go Back to America?: Voices of Japanese American Incarceration during…
Breaking down barriers with pastor and theatre artist Mark Stephenson
Our host Lee Wochner speaks with Mark Stephenson, an accomplished actor, administrator, civil servant, church pastor, and board member. The conversation focuses on leadership, his advocacy for embracing diversity, traveling…